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Deadwater Black Grade ('Up and Over')
(Average user rating: 3 unrated 2.3/5)

Trail details

Grade of Trail:

  • Severe

Length of trail:

4 miles

Trail is currently open


Trail description

Cyclists on the new trail up to and around Deadwater. Kielder. Northumberland.

Experience two of the best single track trails in England and some of the best views in Britain. Whether you choose the Deadwater red grade trail or the extremely challenging “Up and Over” black grade trail, you will be taking in the 1,900 foot summit of Deadwater Fell which straddles the English/Scottish border and gives sensational 360° views from coast to coast (on a clear day). The trail plummets from the peak back down to Kielder Castle on specially constructed single track, packed full of features.

Gary Forrest, World Cup Downhill Mountain Bike Championship competitor, constructed this trail which should give you an idea of the level of skill required for this trail. This is a severe grade trail and only suitable for very experienced riders who are able to tackle this level of riding. Up and Over is accessed from the red grade Deadwater Trail.

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What do other visitors say?

4 Stars 4 Stars

I have to agree with Derek, some of the black chippings were a couple of inches deep in places (Adder Nuff, rattle snake and snakebite on black) and really loose, also grass along the edge was really long so you can't actually see the trail in places.

I did however, get the impression that the black downhill routes are perhaps not getting the traffic along them and this would explain the deep chippings and overgrowing. So come on people give it a blast, really enjoyable otherwise.

Iain, 9/Aug/2016
2 Stars 2 Stars

This is an excellent ride ruined by the new surface.

Enjoyed the trail and the new climb sections (Three dogs) but not getting on well with the black chippings surface, which seem to be all over the forest trails now. These are virtually unridable in places, especially on berms and corners and spoil the rides.

Also, the little bridge in Primrose Wood is lethal in the wet, be prepared for a back flip.

Can sympathise with those unhappy with trail closures not signposted, got to the top of Lonesome Pine board walk last year to find the trail closed with no prior warning on route.

Derek, 3/Jun/2016

Sorry to hear you do not rate the repair work undertaken on the trails. However, the armouring of the trail is essential to enable the sustainable long term use of these trails as the soils in Kielder would not support MTB riding otherwise. I take your point re advertising trail closures. These are usually posted at the trailhead at Kielder Castle and here on the website. However, there are a number of potential places riders can park and join the trail and in these instances may miss initial posters and only find out about the closure once they reach it.

Forestry Commission Response
1 Star 1 Star

Got to the start of the Up and Over trail only to find it 'closed'. No warning of this at the trail head or on the website, it says above that the trail is open. Not to mention the extreme over growth in the lower 'open' section of the black and some sections of the red trail. Overall, very disappointing experience considering the location of Kielder and the parking fee.

Greg, 30/Jul/2015

Sorry your trip to Kielder didn't live up to expectations. The closure is posted on both the website and trailhead, but as you missed them we'll revisit to ensure they are as prominent as they could be. We're currently working our way round the trails strimming and will drop on to this one as soon as we can - thanks for letting us know.

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